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And none of that equals "the internet". Just because the box speaks internet protocols, doesn't mean your TV has access to the internet over that coax cable plugged into it. Same goes for accessing cable TV from your computer. You have to have the appropriate box for the appropriate content and they do not cross. One box might do both but it's only going to send cable signals to your TV and internet signals to your computer.

The two are not compatible. Yes, but if they patched that flaw then it is no longer available to use. Not all flaws are identical. Also valid. But that doesn't mean that exploit will be the exact same thing of remote control. This happens all the time in the IT world. Exploits are discovered all the time but they range from a minor nuisance that is unlikely to ever be encountered to emergency level remote control with minimal effort.

Not everything is on that one end of the spectrum. And no, the usual cable-type TV is just straight visual and audio input which happens to be over an optic line. Kept that way, ironically, by a number of vested interests who felt as long as they could hold the consumer hostage to their schedules they'd have a similar grip over their consumer's interests. The same people who went to war so heavily against the VCR, incidentally. That said cable CAN carry other data doesn't change the fact that the normal plug only has a direct connection to audio and video displays.

Or so it used to be.


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HDMI carrying programming instructions would be You'd have to be running Wireshark at the exact moment the TV is transmitting to see it and on the right Wifi channel. For all we know, such a thing could happen overnight once a week and be done in a minute. You have a point about it potentially happening very occasionally and potentially missing it that way. I'm not sure what you're getting at with the WiFi channel though. Wireshark and network routing doesn't care about WiFi channels when it comes to capturing data.

Either case is completely irrespective of WiFi channel. See the list of wifi channels. To receive Wifi data, the system running Wireshark would have to be tuned to the correct channel or a channel that's close enough. If you record at your router, you're only capturing traffic going through your Wifi network, which doesn't rule out the TV using other Wifi networks. It seems unlikely, but if you're paranoid enough to run Wireshark you probably want to be sure. Nothing in that link refutes anything I have said. Wireshark sniffing data over your network couldn't care less about what WiFi channel it's on.

If you do your capture there, you capture it all. Port mirroring is similar. At this point I'm fairly certain you have no idea how Wireshark works. Yes, you can put it in monitor and promiscuous mode and try and sniff the airwaves, but since it all has to route out through hardware at some point, why not just do it there and be sure you got everything? The only time you may want to try and sniff the airwaves would be if your hypothetical scenario were true and manufacturers had the TV auto-connect to any unsecured WiFi signal in range. However, TV manufacturers don't do this and you would know whether or not there were unsecured SSIDs in range for it to connect to or not.

So the whole point of sniffing the airwaves is irrelevant. If you record at your router, you're only capturing traffic going through your Wifi network. Which would only be the case if your hypothetical scenario of TVs auto-connecting to any unsecured WiFi network were true and you had unsecured WiFi networks in range. Manufacturers don't do this so the whole thing is moot.

It's not just unlikely, it's more than likely illegal and a HUGE privacy and security nightmare, not just for end users but for manufacturers as well. There's no way in hell they are going to risk that. Consider: your neighbor Joe has an unsecured WiFi network. You buy a non-existent smart TV that auto-connects to any unsecured WiFi network. Your network is secured. Your TV auto-connects to Joe's network and starts passing traffic. Said traffic ups Joe's data usage, maybe causing him to go over his data cap or just sucking up available bandwidth. Joe starts doing some investigating.

Eventually he finds an unknown device on his network and discovers it's your TV. Now Joe is pissed. He sues you and the manufacturer for unlawful use of his WiFi. Other customers find out and throw an absolute fit, security researchers go apoplectic, and the FTC fines the manufacturer.

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Nobody is going to buy that kind of TV. I do hope you're right, and manufacturers won't try anything too shady. But, then, I thought that would have prevented them from putting microphones and cameras into TVs at all. And they've already been caught tracking what people watch, and transmitting that without encryption. Recording audio and video without notifying the end users of it is but with proper notification it is not. And bad security is not illegal either; it's just a very bad idea.

In addition to the legal, privacy, and security issues I named above, it would make it significantly more difficult for an end user to connect their TV to their own network if they actually wanted to. Which is something the manufacturers WANT you to do so they aren't going to put something in place that's going to severely hamper your efforts to do that.

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That was inevitable. Voice controlling your devices has been a concept long before it was even possible. Done properly it's not even close to a privacy and security nightmare. Many devices benefit from having voice controls. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, just how it's executed. Wireshark set to listen over wifi will listen in on ANY channel the antenna it's using can catch. So every conceivable channel of wifi is covered, and then some. Wireshark is used and run by tens of thousands of linux enthusiasts, every security enthusiast, and just about every network engineer who ever had to configure wifi AP's from scratch.

Yes, that is how many use network monitoring tools.

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The necessary program and script is literally a one-click-run setup you could run straight off a raspberry pi. And let me assure you that right now, as we speak, there are hundreds, if not thousands of security enthusiasts who have such setups standing around actively monitoring every IoT-prepped utility you could think of, in the hopes they'll find evidence of just such maneuvers. It's how shit works on the open source segment of IT. My wife talks to her Amazon TV but it is not voice activated - press and hold button down then talk.

Microphone in TV needs is always listening for keyword. I disabled Alexa option in Amazon TV. Bugging my living room or any place in my house is crazy. And those stupid tv remote controllers that you have to talk to, what a piss poor excuse for requiring a live microphone.

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What kind of silly assed excuse will they come up with for a webcam requirement? Prevention of unauthorized public performances. Is this where we all remember Microsoft's xbox "kinect" add-on which turned out to have the built-in capability to count the people in front of the monitor and was launched with the initial requirement of always being plugged in. Discontinued now, but that's the usual fate for gadgets for which the market isn't quite ready yet. Thanks to the internet of things though, the idea of having an always-on and connected webcamera in your living room might not sting the public that hard anymore Remember when MS said their next Xbox would support no physical media, and people revolted?

MS were just ahead of their time. Now we have Google Stadia, and I don't think people care much about the lack of physical media. They don't trust Google to run it, but Steam is popular.

Torrent traffic hasn't decreased noticeably and I know for a fact that my principle of never installing the DRM version of software isn't exactly rare.